Learning Romanian

Indeed... the language I said it would be years before I learned; I'm now learning it. Something sparked suddenly my interest in the Latin forum I participate in. There were some comparisons being made concerning the evolution of certain sounds in Romanian from Latin. This caused me to search a bit, and I've now officially begun to learn this very beautiful (that's correct) language, like all the other languages coming from Latin.
I'm learning very much, and enjoying it. Even though on the surface Romanian may not resemble much the other languages, studying it reveals its true Latin roots. Last year, I did the same with Catalan. Now I can use it as I would use Spanish, and the feedback I get from my Catalan friends is amazing; I thank them, as without them, I wouldn't be able to practice much the language. :-) I look forward to getting better at Romanian, and meeting Romanian people, whom I've never encountered before.
Of course, one can not deny its Slavic influence. It's definitely the most different language I've encountered in the family (i.e. within Romance). There were a few things that threw off at first. For instance, the schwa exists in Romanian, as in does in Catalan and French. In Catalan, it's quite common, and so it is in Romanian. But while in Catalan all unstressed <a> are reduced to a schwa, in Romanian that is definitely not always the case. For example, Rom. bună and Cat. bona are both pronounced with a schwa as the final sound. So in Romanian words such as România and maşină, I was tempted to pronounce untressed <a> as a schwa as well, the way I do in Catalan. With the central close unrounded vowel (ɨ), I didn't have much trouble because I've always used it when speaking Portuguese, generally for unstressed >e>(see other posts for its ocurrence in Portugal).
As far as Latin, I continue studying it, and am now reading original texts, both prose and poetry, as well writing a few things.
I have put Occitan on the side for a while now. However, since I'm actively speaking and writing Catalan, when I decide to get to it, it should rather easy to adapt to it, and keep learning it.
I will be at Romanika for the summer.
Bună ziua!

11 comments:

xavier said...

Eddie:
Bummer that you put aside because I just came aross a diccioari català-occità occità-catlà:
http://www.grec.net/llivirt/mp.pgm?NUM=001677756&F=95317982
That book should help you pick up occità in no time ;)

OK off to Romanian. What do you find to be the most difficult aspect of the language? For me it,s sorting out the Salvic words from the Latin. For example the Romanian/Moldavian word for Defense is a Slavic word not the common romance word: Defensa/Defence.

In any case, post your progress and your insights. It,s always education to learn as you do :)

xavier

Anonymous said...

Hello there,
I am so happy to read taht someone is interested in learning my language. I got on your blog from Textkit(I teach Latin) and I thought you were Romanian. Still a very pleasant surprise. I am Romanian and I have a BA in Romanian Language and Literature, so if you need some help, let me know.

Anonymous said...

Romanians have the latin word for defense..its defensiva, last a its that a from buna schwa? never thought you call it like that...we call it...hard to expplain how we call it...haha
Im struggling with catalan..help anyone? spanish was not too hard, nor is italian but bloody catalan...still got probs with the pronunciation.

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Anonymous said...

How are you dealing with the fact that Romanian has a stressed schwa? (or the equivalent, for those who fail to believe there is such a thing.)

The thing about Romanian that fouls me is the palatalization of certain letters (e.g., lupi "wolves" is /lup'/, while lupii "the wolves" is /lupi/. I wonder how you're doing with this aspect of it.

Desargues said...

I think Romanian for 'defense' is of Latin origin, tho'. I don't have diacritics to spell it properly, but probably the lack of them makes the terms origin more apparent. It's 'aparare' in Romanian--I suspect from Latin 'ad' and 'paro, -are' (cf. french 'parer'). Does that sound convincing?

Congrats on deciding to learn Romanian--and good luck with it; I find it incredibly hard, even though it's my mother tongue. I didn't realize how awfully difficult it is until I tried to teach it to a foreigner. If you need any help with it, let us know. There's plenty of us around, including in Uncle Sam's United Spades.

Vivi said...

Eddie!Por onde tens andado? Nunca mais ouvi falar de ti! Olha,tens que me dar umas lições em Romeno, isso porque pretendo estudar na Roménia.E também quero umas lições em français!Je besoin practiquer mon français,je dis beaucoup de betises...
Adoro o teu blog!!
Bjs****

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Anonymous said...

@Xavier

"The Romanian/Moldavian word for Defense is a Slavic".

Leaving aside the ambiguity of the term "Moldavian", I should like to point out that the Romanian word for "defence" is of Latin origin: "apăra" from lat. aparare. Simmilarly, related terms such as "adăpost" ("protection"; from lat. ad depositum), "feri" ("to shield"; from lat. ferire) or "veghea" ("to watch over"; from lat. vigilare) are of latin origin. But there are also words of Slavic origin in this semantic sphere: "ocroti" ("to protect"; from Sl. okrotiti "to tame") or "păzi" ("to guard"; from Sl. paziti "to watch carefully").

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